My Very Easy Method for Spotting Millennium Falcon Differen

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My Very Easy Method for Spotting Millennium Falcon Differen

Post by Jaitea » January 15th, 2015, 2:42 am

Theres a thread over at Starship Modeller about the likeliness of Bandai releasing a large scale Millennium Falcon model kit hopefully soon, the main topic being whether it will be based on the 5 foot Falcon or the 32" Falcon......and the likeliness that it would be a tie in with the new film coming out at the end of the year.

If it is an Episode 7 Millennium Falcon then it would be based on the 5 footer (with a different Radar dish...after the Lando incident)

I gave a brief history of the Falcons appearance which was like this:

Well my love is the 5 footer....(gasp....shock!!)

I know everyone is probably sick of me going on about it

It IS the Millennium Falcon, all the work that went into it....all the details, super fine details,....but the model was BIG & heavy and hard to get those agile & active shots.

So a smaller 'stunt' model was needed for key scenes in the sequel, ESB,....'dont worry the audience won't notice the difference because when the stunt model is on screen, there'll be so much motion blur',.....when the camera has to linger on the Falcon in the film (obviously apart from the full size set....and 2 other shots....stuck on a Star Destroyer & dangling from the Medical Frigate....could you imagine the size of making a Star Destroyer Command tower for the 5 footer?) the higher 'Real' Falcon....the 5 foot ship was used

When the SE OT was re-released 1n 1997 a new shot of the Falcon was required to show it's engines warming up as it lifts off from Mos Eisley....A CG model was constructed using a combination of both Falcon Models,....the back end is mainly the 5 footer, but the front end is the 32"

Later a matte painting of the Falcon parked in the Death Star Docking Bay was re-composited using what looks like the same CG Falcon....but the back end is now 32".....so this shot is probably the physical 32" studio model

On now to what we can get

MPC's model was of the original Falcon & really not bad,....I love that model...nostalgia

I think Fine Molds released their 1/72 model of the falcon in 2005 before Master Replicas MF, they decided to make a scale model off the 32" I don't know how much access the FM modellers were allowed, but they got some fundimental measurements wrong

When Master Replicas were releasing their studio scale model of course they made a 'Replica' of the 32"....they were allowed complete access to it and successfully duplicated it,.....but the 32" didn't really deserve this superstardom,....it wasn't meant to have all this attention & people scrutinising it's every detail,....it wasn't the REAL Falcon

So now all these years later DeAgostini is letting us build up a part-work Falcon,....studio scale...again of the 32"

The Millennium Falcon returns in 2015's 'The Force Awakens'.....what are they using?

They obviously need this ship to be active & agile....but the main thing....they want to take us back to the 'Old Star Wars',....they want us to see the detail

So they've made a hyper detailed CG model of the REAL falcon,......the original Falcon,..the 5 footer is back..

...everything is there (apart from the dish that Lando Knocked off)....but more, finer greeblies

So Bandai have got the Star Wars licence for Japan,...all of the kits they've released so far & are planning on releasing are Original Trilogy kits (Thankfully Prequel kits are not the priority at the minute)...theres XWings, TIE Fighters, Scout Walkers, Droids, Speeder Bikes, Stormtroopers & Vader......

....no Millennium Falcon....(well theres a tiny one).....what do I think/hope they are planning?

One of the first releases of kits from EP7 would/should be a lovely 1/72 Millennium Falcon....which would be of the REAL Millennium Falcon

Bandai have so far surprised us with superior engineered & detailed kits than even FineMolds have given us, with optional parts for building different versions....Imagine if a new 1/72 Falcon kit allowed us to decide on a 3 gear ANH Falcon / 5 Gear ESB, RoTJ & beyond version,....the option for circular or rectangle dish

How much would it cost though?

[When they built the original 5 footer, they never made landing gear for her.....the clever idea was to build the full size prop as close to the 5 foot model as possible.....3 landing gear......they only built about half of the ship into the soundstage wall,....an extra support for the front end of the ship was disguised as a refuelling/charging hose going up into one of the open areas beside the lower jaw.....the soundstage was redressed from Mos Eisley to the Death Star hanger and the job was done

For Empire Strikes Back a more fuller Falcon was needed for the Hoth & Bespin Landing platform,....they couldn't get away with adding support from a wall.

Extra support was needed for it to stand unaided and so the Falcon gained another 2 landing gears as a 'Han & Chewie improvement'

The 5 foot model was then also modified with the 2 extra landing gear boxes & gear for the ship landing on the Cloud City platform.

The 32'' was modelled with the same 5 gear boxes......and gears,.....was that the 32'' we see leaving the Bespin platform?[/QUOTE]

After that a lot of posts were about how to spot differences between the different models, so I thought I'd make it easier

OK......The Differences of the 5 footer Star Wars version (or A New Hope) to the same model modified for Empire Strikes Back.....the additional Landing gear boxes:

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...and a broken Quad gun after ESB:

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Now for the differences of the 5 footer & the 32"

Front on.....differences in the Mandible ends:

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Next the boxes on the mandibles / hull

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The Cockpit:

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The Starboard Mandible:

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The Dish:

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The Quad Turret;

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.....and the back end, the spacing of the vertical Fuel drive pressure stabiliser things:

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Thats it for tonight,.....there are obviously TONNES of differences,......But at a glance, you should be able to pick out which version you are looking at from any angle

Hope this is a help

John

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Re: My Very Easy Method for Spotting Millennium Falcon Diffe

Post by dano985 » January 15th, 2015, 2:56 am

WOW! Thanks for that!! Very interesting read!

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Post by Scott Girvan » January 15th, 2015, 4:39 am

I'm with you on the 5 footer.

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Post by blakeh1 » January 15th, 2015, 6:31 pm

Very cool. Thanks for the details!
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Post by Chris » January 15th, 2015, 6:33 pm

thank you for your explanations it's very interesting.

AFAIK they did a complete new Falcon for EP 7 the over 30 years old models were not good to use them in a production and they are in exhibitions all over the world.

Can't wait here to see what they did with the falcon for EP 7 :)
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Post by DocRaven » January 15th, 2015, 8:57 pm

it will be so interestin if some on show the differnces from the e 4 version over the e5-6 version

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Post by blakeh1 » January 16th, 2015, 1:26 am

Jaitea wrote:When the SE OT was re-released 1n 1997 a new shot of the Falcon was required to show it's engines warming up as it lifts off from Mos Eisley....A CG model was constructed using a combination of both Falcon Models,....the back end is mainly the 5 footer, but the front end is the 32"
I wonder if that CG model is what Hasbro used since it contains elements of both
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Post by dark kyp » January 16th, 2015, 11:27 pm

gread, thanks for the informations! ;)

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Post by Ramsayman » January 18th, 2015, 9:19 am

Thanks for that! I've been edjumacated! :D

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Post by Ramsayman » January 18th, 2015, 9:20 am

Ramsayman wrote:Thanks for that! I've been edjumacated! :D
Alot of those differences could be explained away as mods what with Han and Chewie constantly working on it, but not all!

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